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  • My 1st question: “If God gathered the nations to battle Jerusalem what choice did they have in whether to go to battle against Jerusalem?”

    Your answer: “Of course the nations had a choice. They were gathered for battle, that’s all. They could have refused. They could have chosen to fight honorably. They didn’t have to rape or take the spoils of…[Read more]

  • You didn’t answer my questions… yet again. Are you playing games again as you admitted you were doing earlier?

    Grape: “They were gathered for battle, that’s all.”

    No, that’s not at all. You left out the most important part. They didn’t gather themselves together. God gathered them together. Why do you keep ignoring the text? It r…[Read more]

  • @Rudy: You asked if I had any children and I asked you “why would you say that”? It’s a very odd question so don’t accuse me of not answering your question when it was so out of place that I had to ask why you were even asking.

    Yes, I have children and no I would never discipline them by torturing them, enslaving them, killing them, or causing…[Read more]

  • How typical of you, you didn’t answer my questions. I’ll repeat them: “If God gathered the nations to battle Jerusalem what choice did they have in whether to go to battle against Jerusalem? If God caused this thing to happen which he clearly did by gathering them to battle and he predicted the outcome then how could he not be responsible for the…[Read more]

  • lol. Watching you try to wiggle out of this is so entertaining for me. It’s two verses, just two verses, and yet you managed to ignore the first verse. However, even if you do ignore the first verse, as you have, you’ve still confirmed exactly what I just said. If God gathered the nations to battle Jerusalem what choice did they have in…[Read more]

  • Rudy, looks like our previous discussion in another thread was deleted for some reason.

    Why would you say that?

    While you’re here, go ahead and explain to me why the two verses that I quoted above from Zechariah don’t say exactly what they do say.

  • I’m claiming exactly what is said in the two verses. It’s self-explanatory. Yahweh gathered “all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city will be captured, the houses plundered, the women ravished…”. He gathered the nations to attack Israel knowing that the result would be a captured city, plundered houses, and ravished women.…[Read more]

  • Yes, they did as deliberately caused by Yahweh. I’ll repeat it again: Yahweh clearly deliberately caused women to be raped.

    And you didn’t even attempt to refute that. Your god is a monster and so are you for defending rape.

  • Yes, they did as deliberately caused by Yahweh. I’ll repeat it again: Yahweh clearly deliberately caused women to be raped.

    And you didn’t even attempt to refute that. Your god is a monster and so are you for defending him.

  • Well, looks like I should’ve just used that verse earlier. Not much wiggle room around that one, eh?

    Zechariah 14:1-2, “Behold, a day is coming for the Lord when the spoil taken from you will be divided among you. 2 For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city will be captured, the houses plundered, the women r…[Read more]

  • Well, looks like I should’ve just used that verse earlier. Not much wiggle room around that one, eh?

    Here’s another great example of Yahweh commanding rape: Zechariah 14:1-2, “Behold, a day is coming for the Lord when the spoil taken from you will be divided among you. 2 For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the cit…[Read more]

  • Yeah, no kidding, captive can mean prisoner. I said that just a couple of comments ago: “Go look up the definition of “captive” since you have such trouble with the definition of basic english words. It’s a noun meaning “a prisoner” or “a person who is enslaved or dominated; slave” (dictionary.com)”

    Prisoners can be granted rights. We see no in…[Read more]

  • YOU: “I’m also not assuming that they did not have the freedom to refuse.”

    By definition of the word “captive”, they did not have the freedom to do anything. It’s like saying, “I’m also not assuming that these captives did not have the freedom to leave”. The only reason your comment could possibly be reasonable is if the word captive meant s…[Read more]

  • I’m not surprised in the least that you were confused by my first paragraph since logic is confusing to you. Go look up the definition of “captive” since you have such trouble with the definition of basic english words. It’s a noun meaning “a prisoner” or “a person who is enslaved or dominated; slave” (dictionary.com)

    A person who is captive,…[Read more]

  • The women are captives. A captive doesn’t have a choice in anything unless specified. This text doesn’t specify that they could make any choices. You are making an assumption that maybe they had the right to make a choice about who they married. The text does not indicate that they were anything but captives before marriage was forced upon…[Read more]

  • YOU: “The text says NOTHING about what happens if she refuses.”

    So in your mind if the text doesn’t describe what happens to a captive if they refuse to do something that they’re ordered to do it means that they’re not a captive anymore and can freely choose what happens to them. lol… wow, your logic is just so painfully bad.

    You’re right,…[Read more]

  • You left out the first part of the verse because you’re a highly deceptive person who has no interest in the truth and I enjoy exposing you as that. What does the first part of verse 14 say? “if you are not pleased with her” THEN “you shall let her go where she wants.” She has no say in anything until after he let’s her go.

    What part of…[Read more]

  • lol playing more games again, right? You’re not seriously that illogical, are you? YOU: “nothing definitive from the text that these were forced marriages.” LOL! Did you forget to read the text? The man owns her, doesn’t he? In verse 14 it reads, “but you shall certainly not sell her for money”. You can’t sell someone for money if you don’t…[Read more]

  • You’re a liar. I asked you questions and you refused to answer them and it’s all right there in the text of this thread for anyone to see. I’ll just leave the questions here and you can answer them if you’re done playing your little avoidance game. Since you changed your mind on them being married in Numbers 31 I’ll provide Deut 21:10-13 as an…[Read more]

  • YOU: “I can keep giving you the run-around some more if you want me too, but the game’s getting old.”

    A game created by you because you know that you cannot defend your position. I’m glad you admitted that and I’m glad you admitted that you were giving me the run-around. It was obvious. And that is why we cannot have a discussion.

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