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    • #1493
      Brad Palmore
      Keymaster

      I’ve noticed more and more churches that are moving away from having deacons. Some are doing it to be more women inclusive. Some are doing it because deacons haven’t been “servants” for a very long time. Instead, the title has been bestowed as either an honorary title for being married and having kids or as “elder in training”.

      So, what do you think? Do deacons matter any more?

    • #1495
      Matt Dabbs
      Keymaster

      Seems like we have gotten less formal and less structured. At the end of the day there are certain things that have to get done and it helps to have someone consistently paying attention to it (like helping the widows in Acts 6). It does seem like there has been a move to take these things and either just find a “champion” for it or a “ministry leader” and it often seems like changing the language is away around the qualifications given in 1 Tim 3. At least, let’s be up front about that if that is the case 🙂

      • #1499
        Brad Palmore
        Keymaster

        Are we sure Acts 6 talks about deacons?

    • #1501
      MoSum
      Participant

      The word in means “servant”. In a manner of speaking all Christians should be servants. The note mentions relating the issue to women. Of course several women are named as serving in the early congregations, at least one by name and office.

    • #1504
      Bobbie Huebner
      Participant

      Is the heart of the ministry a gift or title?

    • #1511
      Matt Dabbs
      Keymaster

      Acts 6 was probably before “deacons” in a more formal sense were around but it is the same idea…organizing people for service.

    • #1515
      George Guild
      Participant

      Many view Acts 6 as the foundation and reason for the office of Deacon. The reason for the office is so that someone is held accountable for the needed work being performed. If in your local body there is not a genuine need for an official servant (deacon) to take care of necessary work (like feeding widows) you are a very fortunate congregation. The office was never intended to be an honorary title. Deacon = worker.

    • #1516
      George Guild
      Participant

      Deacons do matter if it is a “working” office (Philippians 1:1 for office of deacon), and it has qualifications to be meet before this office is taken (1 Timothy 3:8-13). Acts 6 presented a need: feeding widows, an obvious work of the congregation of the Lord (also see 1 Timothy 5:3-16). This need was meet by workers to do a duty of feeding these widows. The deacon is to be a worker whose talents (skills) are used on behalf of the needs of the Christian Community first (in order of priority using common sense) then on behalf of the church to the local (unbelieving) world around then. Holding an honorary title without the true work of the office, is a shame on the community of Christ. Please note that this post is not meant to restrict the office of deacon as only feeding widows. Deacons (as office) should be the leaders of other servants/ministers/deacons to get the work organized and done.

    • #1589
      davidhimes
      Participant

      Of course, deacons matter. But since the C of C fellowship has a traditional bias against women as deacons, it’s simpler to not use the label, than to get into another mindless debate about either gender bias or women’s role in the “church”.

    • #3608

      Of course deacons matter. Let’s consider their role, our role if not the pastor. The less manual / menial activities a pastor has to be involved with, the more / better time can be used “pastoring”. The Bible says “OFFICE”. Who are we to minimize / trivialize what is set forth in scripture? Well do I understand the post from July 17, 2014 because confusion is of the enemy. Let us remember that just because we profess to be a Bible believing church, a Christian ministry, etc. and we put things in practice or out of practice does not mean that God is pleased with our doings. Remember the letters to the 7 churches in Asia.

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